From: TheMasterandHisslave
question:
Ihave recently been sharing with another sub. Part of our discussion was onpleasure. he feels that he should not get any pleasure from serving, it is allabout the Master’s pleasure, not ours. I disagreed. i feel our pleasure isimportant but different.
answer:
thisis a fantastic question and one i had to ponder a bit. for the most part, iagree with you rather than your friend. as a submissive and slave, we have toderive some kind of personal pleasure from our role or else we would not havebeen attracted to this lifestyle in the first place. whether it’s sexualexcitement, psychological stability, military-style structure or whatever, theslave receives some kind of personal incentive for serving a Master. that, tome, is the true beauty of a power-exchange relationship. by surrendering mylife over to Master, He receives the life and happiness that He deserves and i,in return, receive the peace and balance that i cannot otherwise achieve on myown without Him.
that’snot to say that we always get pleasure from the act itself. Master often asksme to do things that i don’t personally enjoy doing, but because i am doing itfor Him, i end up loving it. for example, the other week, Master had me cleanout dog shit from the grooves in the sole of his boot. that is not something,as an individual, that i even remotely enjoy. however, as His slave, i lovedperforming that action and was oddly touched that He would allow me to do sucha thing for Him. through surrender, we find bliss and, yes, even pleasure.
onthe other hand, however, there are many “subs” who serve only withinthe parameters of what will get them off. in this case, i agree with yourfriend. these “subs” are very common in scenes and play parties, butinstead of actually surrendering, they are merely turned on by the fantasy ofsurrendering. once the scene is over, they zip up and go. and, during thescene, if a Dom leads them into something unexpected and outside of what theyhave come to expect from their fantasy, they immediately snap out of their”sub” mindset because it is no longer the fantasy they want. i’veseen this several times. these types of “subs” pretend it’s about theDom but, in reality, control the scene and make sure it is always what theywant from it. therefore, they never reach a point of actual surrender. this isthe type of focus on personal pleasure that is unacceptable to me as a slaveand submissive. it should always be about the Dom and we, in return, find abeautiful existence through it.
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There are different masters and different slaves. There is nothing to be agreed or disagreed with. People can't really match a label. It is important that the right people match together.
I think it depends on how much of a sadist there is in a master and how much of a masochist there is in a slave because some slaves really seek for discomfort. As what I have learned, they enjoy in later remembrance of an act or in feeling they were “heroes” while they suffered. These are close to what the pure masochists are.
I am a master but not really a sadist. If I see my slave is not enjoying it is a turn-off to me. There is nothing more I enjoy but when my salves moan painfully out of pleasure in sex, and they do things for me – out of love.